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Post by Ankles Pierre, Jr. on Aug 16, 2020 21:37:17 GMT -6
Ankles Pierre, Jr. never has had much respect for Duluth Atheist.
In fact, the Hill-Murray CHAMPIONEERS never have lost even one state tournament game to Duluth Atheist.
Duluth Cathedral on the other hand, the Hilltoppers really lived up to their name back in the Sixties, topping Hill.
If it weren't for the Hilltoppers and Blake over a period of ten years from the mid-Sixties to mid-Seventies, Hill's CHAMPIONEERS would have won 10 parochial State CHAMPIONEERSHIPS rather just the two.
Really just two teams got in Hill's way so consistently back then.
Similarly, just two teams in the MSHSL have robbed Hill of still another ten titles since: Grand Rapids and Edina.
Burnsville took 2 out of 3 titles from Hill-Murray to become the only other top rivalry, at least during the Eighties, but no other teams come close to sinking more Hill-Murray title contenders than Grand Rapids in the Seventies and Edina ever since. Both the Indians and Hornets incredibly have 6-1 records versus many of Hill's top teams, that's a combined 12-2 against Hill's State Tournament teams.
Hill got them back only twice so far, a drubbing of Rapids on the way to the 1991 CHAMPIONEERSHIP and a 2008 shutout against Edina which made Hill the only modern hockey power ever to beat the Hornets in a State Final Title game.
Just think how insufferable Ankles Pierre, Jr. would be if there had been no Grand Rapids in the Seventies or Edina ever since.
Time for Edina to fade into history like Blake, Burnsville and Grand Rapids did long ago.
H-M HYPHEN-NATION is due!
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Post by goldy313 on Aug 16, 2020 22:14:42 GMT -6
Clearly H-M benefits from playing in the TRME (Tradition Rich Metro East). The toughest conference in the state.....
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Post by pistol on Aug 16, 2020 22:38:37 GMT -6
Some were political in the CAFE where it was supposed to be allowed, even encouraged, yet banned for disagreeing too well. Nobody knows how Moldy lasted so long, especially since YOU want to kill babies just so YOU can watch football and hockey. Wait, isn't killing babies the whole point of being a leftist Democrat? Should we even allow Moldy over here without first checking him for Kung Flu germs? Build the wall! To be fair I officiate football and work for the hockey team. I have a financial interest in these sports continuing on. Losing my gambling income plus my reduced hours due to Comrade Walz’s edicts isn’t helping me either. YOU have to look at it from the Hunters' point of view. If they graduated in 1993, that's the last pitiful year Denfeld made it to a section final. Prior to that time Denfeld had been a regular Tourney entrant. By losing Denfeld's last ever section final game, the Hunters plunged their program into misery ever since. Misery loves company, so the Hunters want to spread three decades worth of pain around. If Hunters can't ever hope to go to State, why should any boy have hopes anywhere when it comes to playing hockey? C'mon, Moldy: Sure, the 1993 Denfeld Hunters are losers, but YOU have to show some compassion.
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Post by Ankles Pierre, Jr. on Aug 16, 2020 22:50:25 GMT -6
Clearly H-M benefits from playing in the TRME (Tradition Rich Metro East). The toughest conference in the state..... Moldy, it's not a proper acronym unless it spells something like Tradition Rich Yearly HYPHEN-NATION Metro East (TRY-ME)
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Post by pistol on Aug 16, 2020 23:07:09 GMT -6
Yes, just like we all know that HDM
stands for
Hill [Dash] Murray
and also a lesser known acronym for
Hockey Day Minnesota
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Post by goldy313 on Aug 16, 2020 23:22:48 GMT -6
I am a John Marshall fan, any year beyond 1989 is beyond my comprehension. International Falls, Southwest, South Saint Paul, Richfield, etc. know my pain.
Duluth knows nothing!
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Post by pistol on Aug 17, 2020 0:23:05 GMT -6
Moldy,
We're all fans of the Rockettes.
All you need are 15-20 kids, an arena and some great coaches.
After all, it's just one group of 16-17 year-old kids versus another group of 16-17 year-old kids.
So much more video is available today then back then if today's kids really want to study, then practice even just one skill, like the Guentzel boys did day after day playing a simple game of keep away on one corner of an outdoor rink.
There are more distractions today, but it still comes down to dedication and desire.
It's not Rockette science
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Post by Reaper on Aug 17, 2020 7:47:10 GMT -6
I am a John Marshall fan, any year beyond 1989 is beyond my comprehension. International Falls, Southwest, South Saint Paul, Richfield, etc. know my pain. Duluth knows nothing! Don't sound the death knell for the Rockettes, Moldy, not after our Space program has been revived by our current and soon to adorn Mt. Rushmore President. Though, like most those teams you mentioned, Hill never lost even a single state tournament game to the Rockettes, each game between Hill and RJM was an overtime thriller with something important on the line. If you find yourself in a game against the others you mentioned, it means you have dropped a class and/or already landed in the losers bracket. Same goes for "state tournament" games against Blaine or STA (with the exception of STA finally meeting Hill in a TRY-ME state semifinal this year), nin-televised games played at U of M Minneapolis campus loser bracket arenas don't mean anything. Games played off site these days, make ZERO sense. You're not even in the state tournament anymore! Of course, in the random draw of the Seventies, the one class consolation round carried weight. Consolation winners often might be the second best team in the tournament. It's why the trophies were called Consolation Champions or Runners-Up, the random draw meant there was no true second, third or fifth place. The games were exciting, well attended, televised, and meant something ... not like the off-site, non-televised, empty arena, truly meaningless waste of time and money they do today. It made more sense in the Seventies. You had the television cameras, ad revenue, and everyone already in the same building ... might as well keep playing to see who might go 2-1 and have claim to "next best."
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Post by pistol on Aug 17, 2020 8:10:31 GMT -6
Though, like most those teams you mentioned, Hill never lost even a single state tournament game to the Rockettes, each game between Hill and RJM was an overtime thriller with something important on the line. If you find yourself in a game against the others you mentioned, it means you have dropped a class and/or already landed in the losers bracket. Same goes for "state tournament" games against Blaine or STA (with the exception of STA finally meeting Hill in a TRY-ME state semifinal this year), non-televised games played at U of M.... Eye think YOU meant to say, "Although Hill never lost a game that mattered to either RJM or most the other teams Moldy mentioned, the games against RJM truly mattered. Not "Though, like most those teams you mentioned, Hill never lost even a single state tournament game to the Rockettes,..." ... which gives the false impression that all those crass "eh?" loser bracket teams also swept RJM ... which was not the case
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Post by Ankles Pierre, Jr. on Aug 17, 2020 8:30:19 GMT -6
Ankles Pierre, Jr. would best express Reaper's idea by changing the wording to read:
Like most those teams you mentioned, the Rockettes never emerged victorious in even one single state tournament game against the Hill-Murray HYPHEN-NATION CHAMPIONEERS;
however, each state tournament game between Hill and RJM was an overtime thriller with something very important on the line.
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Post by pistol on Aug 17, 2020 9:45:55 GMT -6
iirc Tonka split with Burnsville that year during the regular season. However having to play late into Thursday night, get up early Friday morning, see your goalie give up another soft goal and lose a game you dominated might have been too much to overcome. Something similar happened vs. HM in the semis in 2010. grrrr Except that it was the Hill-Murray HYPHEN-NATION CHAMPIONEERS who dominated most of that 2010 multi-overtime marathon semifinal, not allowing Minnetonka any shots on net over two thirds of the game. Are there no honest souls left on Ye Olde Bored?
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Post by Ankles Pierre, Jr. on Aug 17, 2020 13:32:17 GMT -6
Ye Olde Bored is as hysterical as ever ...
not funny ...
just hysterical ...
with a bunch of leftists going hysterical over Americans having too much freedom in the EYES of Ye Olde Bored:
"Don't go to school! Don't transfer to a better school! Don't even play hockey! Your kid is going to kill my kid!"
What kind of bubble has Ye Olde Bored created for itself? Have they never moved or switched jobs? Must everyone stay the same and stay home? Must the moderators really go to the powder room together?
If there is anything funny about Ye Olde Bored, it might be watching the leftist cancel culture public skol fans all cancel each other now that they finally realized can't go after Hill-Murray with phoney recruiting charges when nearly every CHAMPIONEER varsity or JV player has had parents, siblings, or other relatives attend Hill. "Even all the coaches, except for me," said Lex, "graduated from Hill. It's just a big family."
Yes, all the best coaches either attended Hill-Murray or hightailed it away from Cretin.
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Post by CAP on Aug 17, 2020 16:44:40 GMT -6
Hey, Goldy!
Reignite the Rockets, will ya?
That was a great tradition and rivalry for Hill, and Hill loves tradition.
Amazing that Hill and Rapids met so often in the Seventies, especially considering the draw was "random" and was supposed to rotate.
Were Hill and Rapids too good to avoid each other, or was something else happening? Edina has faced Hill at State just as many times but average only a little over one meeting per decade.
Actually, I'm surprised the top programs haven't met more often in the past five decades, because a potential Hill versus Edina faceoff was a major impetus for the various leagues merging into one MSHSL Tourney in the first place.
Since the 1974/75 merger, Hill has the most appearances by far, and here are the Pioneers' most frequent Tourney opponents:
7 years each: Edina (East) and Grand Rapids
6 years: the three BIG Bloomington schools
5 years: Moorhead
4 years each: Rochester schools (4 years combined) plus Burnsville
3 years each: STA; Lakeville schools (once each); Duluth East; Southwest; SSP; Tonka; Roseau; Blaine; and Eden Prairie
2 years each: Johnson; Hibbing and Apple Valley
Only one meeting at state: 18 different schools
Is there any school you a surprised that hasn't encountered Hill more often at state?
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Post by Coach Oliver on Aug 17, 2020 16:50:41 GMT -6
I'm surprised Moorhead could have had three more Runners Up trophies if only Hill hadn't knocked them out of the winners brackets
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Post by Henry Sibley on Aug 17, 2020 16:55:11 GMT -6
I'm surprised Hill spent enough years in the losers brackets to ever even have to faceoff against Blaine or South St. Paul
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